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Offline KoBeWi

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Eternal Daughter
« on: April 11, 2025, 08:58:30 am »
Hi, I made my first map. It's for Eternal Daughter, an old freeware metroidvania by Derek Yu.

I'm not familiar with the submission process, and also it's my first map, so I figured I'd post here to get some feedback first.

You can see the map here:
https://files.catbox.moe/e3wg8c.png (14,6 MB)

I created it by screenshotting. It's not pixel-perfect, because some parts were out of visible area or covered by HUD; I assume it's a typical problem, unless you have some tools to hack the game. Also at some point Windows decided that it will take screenshots with different colors, so the colors in early parts might be a bit off (not noticeable; I still wonder which colors were real).

I kept all the screenshots, there is almost 4k of them. The map was stitched in GIMP.

Offline Cyartog959

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Re: Eternal Daughter
« Reply #1 on: April 11, 2025, 11:23:35 am »
Nice! Took a good look at your map, and it is well-made. I never played it myself, but I do like seeing such freeware games being mapped for preservation and additional appreciation about their artistry.

If any part of the map gets obscured or occupied by the HUD, don't worry. I don't know any tools about extracting maps from any Clickteam engine made games(not that I've seen any), but, if you're still concerned, seek and ask anyone who's more experienced in it.

The overall map size, from its time, I can see it was from when we didn't have very huge maps yet, but I can guess the small rooms put together in a whole map took some memory Derek Yu had at that time, guessing from plenty of Megabytes to maybe a Gigabyte or so. The complexity's quite noticeable, though.

Really not bad. You got about every secret and hidden Easter Egg room down, too.

And, I could think the game was made through Multimedia Fusion 1.

The map submission button is found on the site's homepage, labelled "Contribute". That's where you can submit your map. If you're in thought of some slight refinements to your map before that, well, the decision's up to you.

Offline KoBeWi

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Re: Eternal Daughter
« Reply #2 on: April 11, 2025, 01:37:36 pm »
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I don't know any tools about extracting maps from any Clickteam engine made games(not that I've seen any), but, if you're still concerned, seek and ask anyone who's more experienced in it.
Yeah, I found two tools. One allows to view the levels, but requires a .gam file, while the game only comes with exe. The other could extract game's files, but not the levels. Both are open-source and come with level format specification, so I could try extracting it myself, but I don't even have experience with binary formats. Now that the map is done I don't really need it anymore. (though I wonder if there aren't any hidden Easter eggs in some unreachable areas)

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The map submission button is found on the site's homepage, labelled "Contribute". That's where you can submit your map.
I've seen the button, but it seems to take you directly to sending e-mail. I couldn't find any guidelines, preferred formats etc. even on the forum.

If you think the map is good enough I will wait a couple more days and submit it as is.

Offline Cyartog959

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Re: Eternal Daughter
« Reply #3 on: April 11, 2025, 03:24:03 pm »
Yeah, I found two tools. One allows to view the levels, but requires a .gam file, while the game only comes with exe. The other could extract game's files, but not the levels. Both are open-source and come with level format specification, so I could try extracting it myself, but I don't even have experience with binary formats. Now that the map is done I don't really need it anymore. (though I wonder if there aren't any hidden Easter eggs in some unreachable areas)

There are other past Clickteam made games yet to be mapped out there, including those ported to consoles, I think, so, I would recommend saving your tools for later.

I also think that later games made with newer Clickteam engine versions have been formatted to .MFA, so, seeing their maps & contents may require different tools.

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I've seen the button, but it seems to take you directly to sending e-mail. I couldn't find any guidelines, preferred formats etc. even on the forum.

If you think the map is good enough I will wait a couple more days and submit it as is.

Basically, for any sending maps without guided steps, the lowdown is this; after clicking "Submit", you'd have to put any made maps, singular or a set, in the email as images, preferably in .PNG for best clear quality, then, when ready, send them to complete your map submission.

Thanks. I would think that upon good, close inspection, there would be a few rough spots you might have missed somewhere, aside from whatever small oddities you mentioned.

Offline JonLeung

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Re: Eternal Daughter
« Reply #4 on: April 14, 2025, 03:43:33 pm »